Why the fuck do I have trouble doing the most simple of things....
30 April 2008
29 April 2008
It Feels Like...
27 April 2008
What is Wrong With Jaromir Jagr's Face
Seriously, is anyone watching the second round series between the Penguins and Rangers?
Jagr has something on his face...it could be hair....it may be.....hair?
He looks like an idiot.
It may be hard to tell in this photo but he has a flavor savor and a tiny little wedge in the dent on his upper lip too.
Yikes, not attractive...though, i suppose i should have expected it from the guy who gave us this:
Jagr has something on his face...it could be hair....it may be.....hair?
He looks like an idiot.
It may be hard to tell in this photo but he has a flavor savor and a tiny little wedge in the dent on his upper lip too.
Yikes, not attractive...though, i suppose i should have expected it from the guy who gave us this:
23 April 2008
Deal or Would You Like Me to Put You Out of Your Misery?
hmmm....I dont know...hmmm. I will have to say...hmmm...Poke out my eyes!!!!
Q and non and I are done with dinner, kinda surfing channels before bedtime, and we come upon Deal or No Deal. You know that stupid show that is very popular and forced every other channel to air their own lame prime time game shows (Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Why yes, I believe I am).
I was thinking, am I the only one who actively roots against the contestants? I pray for them to get really close and then blow it all. And I hope that someone hits Howie right in his stupid flavor savor mouth.
...sigh.
That sound you hear? It's me turning the channel.
Q and non and I are done with dinner, kinda surfing channels before bedtime, and we come upon Deal or No Deal. You know that stupid show that is very popular and forced every other channel to air their own lame prime time game shows (Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Why yes, I believe I am).
I was thinking, am I the only one who actively roots against the contestants? I pray for them to get really close and then blow it all. And I hope that someone hits Howie right in his stupid flavor savor mouth.
...sigh.
That sound you hear? It's me turning the channel.
22 April 2008
Awards Night
Yay Team 15! Not only did we win the whole shebang, Q pulled down a ton of personal awards and little birdy pulled down three herself.
Here's team 15's thrill of victory photo
This is Q's Haul
This is mine
...kinda sad eh?
Needless to say it was a good time and i believe we are signing up for a summer league.
Have a good week everyone~
Bird
Here's team 15's thrill of victory photo
This is Q's Haul
This is mine
...kinda sad eh?
Needless to say it was a good time and i believe we are signing up for a summer league.
Have a good week everyone~
Bird
21 April 2008
Commuting...and Bowling
I fucking hate it when you are 15min early leaving the house only to have to sit in traffic for 20min. WTF? Also, today I had to deal with three complete asshole drivers. Weaving in and out of traffic like a bunch of dicks...randomly cutting people off. Jesus christ what is wrong with you assholes? Why must you fuck with my monday morning?
submitted from success has failed
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Tonight are bowling awards, you know what that means....cash baby! I will blog and take a thrill of victory shot tonight.
~B
submitted from success has failed
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Tonight are bowling awards, you know what that means....cash baby! I will blog and take a thrill of victory shot tonight.
~B
19 April 2008
17 April 2008
16 April 2008
Arrogance and Elitism Revisited
Q said it best last night..."The Dems are being really nasty to each other."
As I am sure you have all heard, Barack Obama made comments at a private fundraiser in SF that were leaked by a blogger (silly blogger!). In a nutshell, Obama said that rural and working class folks were bitter about economic issues and in their frustrations turned to religion, anti-immigrant and gun issues. Clinton and McCain called Obama out of touch and an elitist.
Here’s the thing…it’s fucking true people. I have lived with the rural and working class (I think I am working class…is that a pc way to say poor?) and when they get frustrated by government they fall back on “their” issues which are often guns, illegal’s and god. Everyone does this…you get mad at the gov for the complete fuck up of the last four/eight years and you get in touch with the issues that are really important for you. That could be environmental stuff, abortion (or lack thereof), free trade issues…whatever you consider important. We all have these core issues that are very important to us as people. Very often, for rural and working class those issues are guns, god, and illegal’s.
I don’t think Obama should have said it, or at least not around reporter types but I don’t think it is wrong or a sign that he is totally out of touch with “the little people” or whatever you want to call them. In fact, it seems spot on to me.
Now, to get to Clinton and McCain’s comments…yes he is arrogant and elitist, and so are you. Hillary, you made how much on your book? 20 million…yeah me too! McCain, you spent five years where? Me too…how strange.
You guys are nothing like me. Not one little bit…and you shouldn’t be. Who the fuck would want me as President? I have said it before and I will say it again, I don’t want an average joe for prez. I want someone much smarter than me. Much better in every way. I think we have seen what “a guy just like me” gets ya and it isn’t so hot. Hillary, stop throwing back shots
and talking about your experience with shooting guns. Everyone stop trying to relate to me. If you are smart you will completely understand how hard it is to be underpaid, with mounting debt and facing a job loss. And seriously, everyone stop bowling.
Also, arrogant? Fuck yes Obama is arrogant. Obama and Hillary and McCain and anyone who thinks that they can represent 303,868,256 people. You have to be arrogant and you should be. Can you imagine a wishy-washy prez? Someone who doesn’t have the confidence to bomb a nation if it is needed? Jesus christ people, wake up.
As I am sure you have all heard, Barack Obama made comments at a private fundraiser in SF that were leaked by a blogger (silly blogger!). In a nutshell, Obama said that rural and working class folks were bitter about economic issues and in their frustrations turned to religion, anti-immigrant and gun issues. Clinton and McCain called Obama out of touch and an elitist.
Here’s the thing…it’s fucking true people. I have lived with the rural and working class (I think I am working class…is that a pc way to say poor?) and when they get frustrated by government they fall back on “their” issues which are often guns, illegal’s and god. Everyone does this…you get mad at the gov for the complete fuck up of the last four/eight years and you get in touch with the issues that are really important for you. That could be environmental stuff, abortion (or lack thereof), free trade issues…whatever you consider important. We all have these core issues that are very important to us as people. Very often, for rural and working class those issues are guns, god, and illegal’s.
I don’t think Obama should have said it, or at least not around reporter types but I don’t think it is wrong or a sign that he is totally out of touch with “the little people” or whatever you want to call them. In fact, it seems spot on to me.
Now, to get to Clinton and McCain’s comments…yes he is arrogant and elitist, and so are you. Hillary, you made how much on your book? 20 million…yeah me too! McCain, you spent five years where? Me too…how strange.
You guys are nothing like me. Not one little bit…and you shouldn’t be. Who the fuck would want me as President? I have said it before and I will say it again, I don’t want an average joe for prez. I want someone much smarter than me. Much better in every way. I think we have seen what “a guy just like me” gets ya and it isn’t so hot. Hillary, stop throwing back shots
and talking about your experience with shooting guns. Everyone stop trying to relate to me. If you are smart you will completely understand how hard it is to be underpaid, with mounting debt and facing a job loss. And seriously, everyone stop bowling.
Also, arrogant? Fuck yes Obama is arrogant. Obama and Hillary and McCain and anyone who thinks that they can represent 303,868,256 people. You have to be arrogant and you should be. Can you imagine a wishy-washy prez? Someone who doesn’t have the confidence to bomb a nation if it is needed? Jesus christ people, wake up.
14 April 2008
Oh. My. God
Awards are next monday and i will post photos then...
~Bird
PS Thanks for the good thoughts Pat....i dedicate my crappy 115 game to you!
Tonight....You...
...must cheer me on to bowling victory.
It must seem that I am obsessed with bowling and I want to assure you, I'm not.
It is just that, this bowling league started way back in October. In a way, it has been the bane of my existence since then.
Tonight is the very last day...this is for all the marbles, the whole sha-bang, the kit and kaboodle. What?
Team 15 is going for the win. Wish me luck and I will have a post tommorrow about
The Thrill of Victory
or the
Agony of Defeat
Tweets,
Bird
It must seem that I am obsessed with bowling and I want to assure you, I'm not.
It is just that, this bowling league started way back in October. In a way, it has been the bane of my existence since then.
Tonight is the very last day...this is for all the marbles, the whole sha-bang, the kit and kaboodle. What?
Team 15 is going for the win. Wish me luck and I will have a post tommorrow about
The Thrill of Victory
or the
Agony of Defeat
Tweets,
Bird
10 April 2008
The Saints Go Marching In...*UPDATE*
There is a Patron Saint of Birds...
St. Gall, the irish hermit. How appropriate.
There isnt really a PS for Bowling...
Usually St. Christopher get's the job however, details about the guy are extensive but suspect. He carried a very heavy baby jesus across a river, which I guess kinda relates to bowling as some babies and my bowling ball weighs 12 pounds.
UPDATE
I guess I didnt really make it clear as to why i needed to know about the Patron Saint of Bowling.
As I have mentioned before, I am in a bowling league with Q and the K's, and the very last game is this coming monday. As it stands now, our team, Team 15 is in first place. Pretty astounding since I am such a miserable bowler. To stay in first place we need to play very well on Monday night. You know how well I do when the game is on the line right?
Wish me luck...
B
St. Gall, the irish hermit. How appropriate.
There isnt really a PS for Bowling...
Usually St. Christopher get's the job however, details about the guy are extensive but suspect. He carried a very heavy baby jesus across a river, which I guess kinda relates to bowling as some babies and my bowling ball weighs 12 pounds.
UPDATE
I guess I didnt really make it clear as to why i needed to know about the Patron Saint of Bowling.
As I have mentioned before, I am in a bowling league with Q and the K's, and the very last game is this coming monday. As it stands now, our team, Team 15 is in first place. Pretty astounding since I am such a miserable bowler. To stay in first place we need to play very well on Monday night. You know how well I do when the game is on the line right?
Wish me luck...
B
09 April 2008
Goddamn...
******
Do I really want to get rid of my Nalgene water bottle?
No...but maybe i can just get a sigg as well and wean myself off of the beloved nalgene. Maybe I dont care, since it gives the childrens cancer and 1-I currently dont have childrens and 2-Probably wont have childrens. Also, if i do get childrens, can't i just stop using it then? hmmm..
Sigg bottles are neat though...
They have not so girly styles too
******
Why wont the day end?
B
07 April 2008
Theft
This is a conversation I had with Don who owns and manages the Arrowhead Consignment Sales website. It is long so feel free to skip large portions. To make it easier, my comments will be bold. If you have thoughts or questions about the subject please post in the comments section.
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Do you have a way of making sure that the people selling didnt take the tools and points from sites on federal or state lands?
Thanks
B
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How on earth would anyone check for that? I wish I could, but it's not possible. Any suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated. thanks. Don
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You are right, it is most likely impossible to check that information, even if you asked anyone could just lie. Do you inform sellers or buyers that it is illegal to sell and buy artifacts that were collected from State or Federal land? Some may not care and do it anyway but others may just not know about laws that prohibit collecting those items. Perhaps they will self-regulate...
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I am not sure why the government thinks they own the rocks on all their land. After all, we're taking about millions and millions of acres and millions of artifacts. I do understand why it's wrong to dig up graves, but surface finds? It makes little or no sense to me or to any other collectors that I'm aware of. If they could charge sales tax or a finders tax I'm sure it would be just fine to look anywhere you want. Thanks. Don
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Whether or not you agree with the laws doesnt mean that you dont have to abide by them. They are in place and there can be hefty fines for removing them and as a middle man in these transactions it seems like it is in your best interest to link to the laws or put in a caveat emptor. If someone tries to sell items that are associated with burials, would you not allow them to use your site?
I agree that there are probably lots of artifacts out there and that the gov. and states own lots of land, however, it is still important for artifacts to be found in context so that we (the community, the nation etc) can learn about an area. There could be subsurface features and the only indication may be an initial surface find of flakes and points. Also, the interpretation of a sites' use can be drastically altered if all diagnostic tools (awls, needles, points, manos, metates etc.) are removed-leaving only flakes. The site goes from a possible long term camp or subsistance area to seemingly unremarkable and unimportant lithic scatter. The actual use of an area is as important as the tools themselves...would you agree with that?
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Truthfully, you sound like an archaeologist. I have never met one of those guys that didn't have a pretty nice collection. Wonder where they got them if not pilfered from one site or another. Surely not illegal surface hunting!!!
And, no, I don't agree with all our laws and like everyone else I ignore some of he silly ones. For instance, Texas actually has a law that you can beat your wife as long as the stick is less than one inch in diameter.
It's pretty much ignored as being too silly to enforce.
I have no objection to major sites being preserved, but hunting camps will never be dug or examined, so why bother with preserving them? Likewise other surface finds that are associated with no site in particular. It is too difficult to separate them ( the legitimate sites and the occasional surface finds) so lets just outlaw hunting altogether. Then no one will have collections and a very interesting hobby and the joy of showing your finds will disappear for thousands of people. Only the archaeologists will have collections then and no one will ever see them, or care. Museums won't have anything to show either because no one will be able to donate illegally found items. There is no simple answer to it. thanks. Don
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I am an archaeologist. I can honestly say that i do not possess a single artifact and am not familiar with any other archaeologists that has a "nice collection" either. Perhaps I just dont know the right kind of archaeologists. It certainly doesnt surprise me since there are lawyers who lie and ministers who sin...that's just part of life. However, that still doesnt make it okay.
I agree that there are a number of silly laws in this country and in individual states and cities, no spitting in public, no horses on trolly cars etc. However, i would have to disagree with your assumption that the Archaeological Resources Protection Act (ARPA) and the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) are arcane laws that can be "ignored as being too silly to enforce."
In fact, the reason you dont see more enforcement of these laws is because it is so difficult for people to prove that objects were taken from public land. I certainly think that NPS, BLM, BIA and other tribal enforcement officers take the looting of sites as a significant problem and would enforce the existing laws if they had the man power to do so.
I also disagree with your statement that "hunting camps will never be dug or examined so why bother with preserving them." I have excavated numerous hunting camps. I have recorded even more...on national park service, forest service, blm and other public lands. On what basis do you say they will never be examined? Certainly there are more sites out there then current investigations are able to record but that doesnt mean that the sites arent important and should be protected so that people do get the opportunity to examine and learn from these areas.
As for other surface finds that are "associated with no site in particular" you may find it interesting to know that the state of Texas refers to a site as a collection of three artifacts in a 25 meter area. The state of Colorado says 10 artifacts are to be considered a site. If you find three flakes and a projectile point, that's a site. Do you feel that you are able to determine what is and isnt an important site? What do you think makes up an important site? Archaeologists would perform subsurface testing to look for features such as hearths and possible house structures (pit houses or in the southwest roomblocks). Do you take the time to examine the land and jot down notes, including location so that you can learn something from the area?
I have no problem with people having collections of artifacts. They are amazing and let's face it--the reason most of us got into the field is because of how cool projectile points etc. look. There are numerous places where you can legally look for artifacts-private lands. There are lots of organizations like amateur archaeological associations that train folks in identifying sites, excavation techniques, pottery identification etc. No one wants to kill the interest in archaeology...i just think it should be done legally. If you remember, my initial suggestion to you was to just mention that it is illegal to take artifacts from public lands. It seems that you are okay with ignoring this law but perhaps others just aren't familiar with them and would be willing to limit their "hunting" to private lands.
B
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You can trust me on this one - they all know hunting on Federal or State land is illegal. They just do it anyway, since that's where most of the artifacts are. When caught, they pay their $2,000.00 fine and go on with their lives. I don't hunt anymore. It got to be such a hassle I just gave it up. I miss it, but it's not worth the bother anymore. No one plows the land anymore in this area and the only productive spots are on federal and state lake shores. Now I just sell for other people. It's been a pleasure visiting with you. One last thing, do you know how many million points and other artifacts are in the possession of the Smithsonian? No one will ever see them. Same with most other agencies. They get them, hide them in the basement, never to be seen again. Who does this benefit? I am truly puzzled about that one. Have a good one. Don
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p.s. If you guys were really serious you would open a museum in each state and display your finds so the general public (the real owners of our public lands) could see your finds and learn from them. It's not going to happen. thanks again. Don
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Nice to talk with you as well.
You mentioned how many points and artifacts are being hidden in the basement...do the private collectors you sell for/to show their artifacts to the public or do they just frame them and mount them on their mantle? Would they let me into their houses to see their collections for free like the Smithsonian does?
I think there are lots of areas that have local museums or museums assocated with colleges or universities. If you are interested in getting these artifacts to the public you should really consider calling local museums, libraries etc. and working out a deal where the artifacts would be donated as long as they will be displayed. There are a number of free resources for museum folks etc to check out that will help them get funding and knowledge on how to best display and interpret your collections. Most states have at least one museum (natural history, Nature and science etc.) that have artifacts on display. I would be surprised if there wasnt a state that had a museum. Most counties have a local museum or historic society that also have displays (while not as expensive) and discussions about Native Americans in the area.
Thank you for speaking with me, it has been refreshing to talk with a collector that is so open and not hostile.
B
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The private collectors I sell for don't hunt for the public. They hunt for themselves and have no obligation to display their finds. Besides, that's an invitation to get robbed. They do show off their stuff at Artifact Shows around the country. You and your fellow archaeologists do have an obligation to show your finds since you are working for the public as paid employees. Depending on private museums and universities doesn't work very well. I recently saw and held in my hand the finest and largest Bell Point ever found. Purchased from a Texas university for pennies. They didn't know what it was. thanks. Don
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I dont work for the public. I work for a private company, as do most archaeologists. We assist clients which can include federal agencies but usually consists of privately owned oil companies, engineering and construction firms and the like. Making sure that when they put in an oil well or a new pipeline or a new housing development that they dont destroy cultural resources (prehistoric and historic). They have no responsibility to share their finds with the public. However, each state has museums where artifacts are displayed...is your complaint that there are not enough in your area? What is the difference between an archaeologist going out onto BLM land and recording an archaeological site and having the artifacts curated in a museum and you taking the artifacts, selling them and the buyer displaying them in a cabinet in their house? The first way, the information about the site is gathered and preserved and perhaps some new ideas about our history can be gleamed. The second way, you make money and you and the buyer are happy. Either way, no one but the archaeological crew, the collector and buyer get to see the artifact.
It doesnt surprise me that you ran into a university staff member who couldnt tell a Bell Point from a shiny rock...not everyone is a good archaeologist. I think that collectors and amateur archaeologists have a lot to offer the field, they have a passion and knowledge many "professional" archaeologists lack. My point is, do it legally. If you think that people dont do a good enough job on the display end, then figure out a way to get those artifacts on display...
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We do have shows. Lots of them, all over the USA. Open to the public. Big difference. There are no museums in my area that show over a handful of artifacts. Thanks. Don
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I can say that I have never been to one of your shows. My question about them is this...would you be able to tell me something about the people that made the artifacts you are showing? Would you be able to tell me the time period they are associated with? What type of animals these people ate, what type of plants? Can you tell me where the artifacts came from and how they got there? Why they chose to camp in one location over another? Can you tell me why there are three notches in this point and only two in this other? Why certain points are fluted and others are not?
Or are the shows more like, here's a very pretty and very well made artifact, only $250.00? Maybe you dont care about the above questions but that is the reason i do archaeology. Those questions are why i go into the field and dig 1x1m holes and screen my dirt and send off seeds for analysis. Fill out annoying forms and map sites. They are the reason that you know what a Clovis and a Bell point is.
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If you'll take a look at my website you will find that all points are typed and area of find is noted. All are guaranteed authentic by me or the seller. And yes, most dealers and serious collectors know the type, age, stone type, where that type stone is found and various other items of interest. Otherwise, how would I know how much to offer for a 4" Clovis, or how much a 4" Bell is worth? Uninformed people don't stay in this line of work or in this hobby very long. They end up with a pile of fakes and no money. Nothing will excite you like paying 5,000.00 for a point and then finding out it's a reproduction. I'm not much interested in seeds and bones but I do appreciate your hard work. Just wish you'd show more of it instead of hiding it away somewhere. thanks. Don
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I could probably respond to Don but my gut hurts and i dont feel like going around and around with a guy who knows what he is doing is illegal but doesnt care because he can make good money doing it. While he was more willing to talk then any other looter i have ever run into-he is still a douche.
Here's a little tip o the hat to you Don. I will be sending THC your way pal.
Happy monday.
Bird
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Do you have a way of making sure that the people selling didnt take the tools and points from sites on federal or state lands?
Thanks
B
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How on earth would anyone check for that? I wish I could, but it's not possible. Any suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated. thanks. Don
~~
You are right, it is most likely impossible to check that information, even if you asked anyone could just lie. Do you inform sellers or buyers that it is illegal to sell and buy artifacts that were collected from State or Federal land? Some may not care and do it anyway but others may just not know about laws that prohibit collecting those items. Perhaps they will self-regulate...
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I am not sure why the government thinks they own the rocks on all their land. After all, we're taking about millions and millions of acres and millions of artifacts. I do understand why it's wrong to dig up graves, but surface finds? It makes little or no sense to me or to any other collectors that I'm aware of. If they could charge sales tax or a finders tax I'm sure it would be just fine to look anywhere you want. Thanks. Don
~~
Whether or not you agree with the laws doesnt mean that you dont have to abide by them. They are in place and there can be hefty fines for removing them and as a middle man in these transactions it seems like it is in your best interest to link to the laws or put in a caveat emptor. If someone tries to sell items that are associated with burials, would you not allow them to use your site?
I agree that there are probably lots of artifacts out there and that the gov. and states own lots of land, however, it is still important for artifacts to be found in context so that we (the community, the nation etc) can learn about an area. There could be subsurface features and the only indication may be an initial surface find of flakes and points. Also, the interpretation of a sites' use can be drastically altered if all diagnostic tools (awls, needles, points, manos, metates etc.) are removed-leaving only flakes. The site goes from a possible long term camp or subsistance area to seemingly unremarkable and unimportant lithic scatter. The actual use of an area is as important as the tools themselves...would you agree with that?
~~
Truthfully, you sound like an archaeologist. I have never met one of those guys that didn't have a pretty nice collection. Wonder where they got them if not pilfered from one site or another. Surely not illegal surface hunting!!!
And, no, I don't agree with all our laws and like everyone else I ignore some of he silly ones. For instance, Texas actually has a law that you can beat your wife as long as the stick is less than one inch in diameter.
It's pretty much ignored as being too silly to enforce.
I have no objection to major sites being preserved, but hunting camps will never be dug or examined, so why bother with preserving them? Likewise other surface finds that are associated with no site in particular. It is too difficult to separate them ( the legitimate sites and the occasional surface finds) so lets just outlaw hunting altogether. Then no one will have collections and a very interesting hobby and the joy of showing your finds will disappear for thousands of people. Only the archaeologists will have collections then and no one will ever see them, or care. Museums won't have anything to show either because no one will be able to donate illegally found items. There is no simple answer to it. thanks. Don
~~
I am an archaeologist. I can honestly say that i do not possess a single artifact and am not familiar with any other archaeologists that has a "nice collection" either. Perhaps I just dont know the right kind of archaeologists. It certainly doesnt surprise me since there are lawyers who lie and ministers who sin...that's just part of life. However, that still doesnt make it okay.
I agree that there are a number of silly laws in this country and in individual states and cities, no spitting in public, no horses on trolly cars etc. However, i would have to disagree with your assumption that the Archaeological Resources Protection Act (ARPA) and the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA) are arcane laws that can be "ignored as being too silly to enforce."
In fact, the reason you dont see more enforcement of these laws is because it is so difficult for people to prove that objects were taken from public land. I certainly think that NPS, BLM, BIA and other tribal enforcement officers take the looting of sites as a significant problem and would enforce the existing laws if they had the man power to do so.
I also disagree with your statement that "hunting camps will never be dug or examined so why bother with preserving them." I have excavated numerous hunting camps. I have recorded even more...on national park service, forest service, blm and other public lands. On what basis do you say they will never be examined? Certainly there are more sites out there then current investigations are able to record but that doesnt mean that the sites arent important and should be protected so that people do get the opportunity to examine and learn from these areas.
As for other surface finds that are "associated with no site in particular" you may find it interesting to know that the state of Texas refers to a site as a collection of three artifacts in a 25 meter area. The state of Colorado says 10 artifacts are to be considered a site. If you find three flakes and a projectile point, that's a site. Do you feel that you are able to determine what is and isnt an important site? What do you think makes up an important site? Archaeologists would perform subsurface testing to look for features such as hearths and possible house structures (pit houses or in the southwest roomblocks). Do you take the time to examine the land and jot down notes, including location so that you can learn something from the area?
I have no problem with people having collections of artifacts. They are amazing and let's face it--the reason most of us got into the field is because of how cool projectile points etc. look. There are numerous places where you can legally look for artifacts-private lands. There are lots of organizations like amateur archaeological associations that train folks in identifying sites, excavation techniques, pottery identification etc. No one wants to kill the interest in archaeology...i just think it should be done legally. If you remember, my initial suggestion to you was to just mention that it is illegal to take artifacts from public lands. It seems that you are okay with ignoring this law but perhaps others just aren't familiar with them and would be willing to limit their "hunting" to private lands.
B
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You can trust me on this one - they all know hunting on Federal or State land is illegal. They just do it anyway, since that's where most of the artifacts are. When caught, they pay their $2,000.00 fine and go on with their lives. I don't hunt anymore. It got to be such a hassle I just gave it up. I miss it, but it's not worth the bother anymore. No one plows the land anymore in this area and the only productive spots are on federal and state lake shores. Now I just sell for other people. It's been a pleasure visiting with you. One last thing, do you know how many million points and other artifacts are in the possession of the Smithsonian? No one will ever see them. Same with most other agencies. They get them, hide them in the basement, never to be seen again. Who does this benefit? I am truly puzzled about that one. Have a good one. Don
~~
p.s. If you guys were really serious you would open a museum in each state and display your finds so the general public (the real owners of our public lands) could see your finds and learn from them. It's not going to happen. thanks again. Don
~~
Nice to talk with you as well.
You mentioned how many points and artifacts are being hidden in the basement...do the private collectors you sell for/to show their artifacts to the public or do they just frame them and mount them on their mantle? Would they let me into their houses to see their collections for free like the Smithsonian does?
I think there are lots of areas that have local museums or museums assocated with colleges or universities. If you are interested in getting these artifacts to the public you should really consider calling local museums, libraries etc. and working out a deal where the artifacts would be donated as long as they will be displayed. There are a number of free resources for museum folks etc to check out that will help them get funding and knowledge on how to best display and interpret your collections. Most states have at least one museum (natural history, Nature and science etc.) that have artifacts on display. I would be surprised if there wasnt a state that had a museum. Most counties have a local museum or historic society that also have displays (while not as expensive) and discussions about Native Americans in the area.
Thank you for speaking with me, it has been refreshing to talk with a collector that is so open and not hostile.
B
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The private collectors I sell for don't hunt for the public. They hunt for themselves and have no obligation to display their finds. Besides, that's an invitation to get robbed. They do show off their stuff at Artifact Shows around the country. You and your fellow archaeologists do have an obligation to show your finds since you are working for the public as paid employees. Depending on private museums and universities doesn't work very well. I recently saw and held in my hand the finest and largest Bell Point ever found. Purchased from a Texas university for pennies. They didn't know what it was. thanks. Don
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I dont work for the public. I work for a private company, as do most archaeologists. We assist clients which can include federal agencies but usually consists of privately owned oil companies, engineering and construction firms and the like. Making sure that when they put in an oil well or a new pipeline or a new housing development that they dont destroy cultural resources (prehistoric and historic). They have no responsibility to share their finds with the public. However, each state has museums where artifacts are displayed...is your complaint that there are not enough in your area? What is the difference between an archaeologist going out onto BLM land and recording an archaeological site and having the artifacts curated in a museum and you taking the artifacts, selling them and the buyer displaying them in a cabinet in their house? The first way, the information about the site is gathered and preserved and perhaps some new ideas about our history can be gleamed. The second way, you make money and you and the buyer are happy. Either way, no one but the archaeological crew, the collector and buyer get to see the artifact.
It doesnt surprise me that you ran into a university staff member who couldnt tell a Bell Point from a shiny rock...not everyone is a good archaeologist. I think that collectors and amateur archaeologists have a lot to offer the field, they have a passion and knowledge many "professional" archaeologists lack. My point is, do it legally. If you think that people dont do a good enough job on the display end, then figure out a way to get those artifacts on display...
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We do have shows. Lots of them, all over the USA. Open to the public. Big difference. There are no museums in my area that show over a handful of artifacts. Thanks. Don
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I can say that I have never been to one of your shows. My question about them is this...would you be able to tell me something about the people that made the artifacts you are showing? Would you be able to tell me the time period they are associated with? What type of animals these people ate, what type of plants? Can you tell me where the artifacts came from and how they got there? Why they chose to camp in one location over another? Can you tell me why there are three notches in this point and only two in this other? Why certain points are fluted and others are not?
Or are the shows more like, here's a very pretty and very well made artifact, only $250.00? Maybe you dont care about the above questions but that is the reason i do archaeology. Those questions are why i go into the field and dig 1x1m holes and screen my dirt and send off seeds for analysis. Fill out annoying forms and map sites. They are the reason that you know what a Clovis and a Bell point is.
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If you'll take a look at my website you will find that all points are typed and area of find is noted. All are guaranteed authentic by me or the seller. And yes, most dealers and serious collectors know the type, age, stone type, where that type stone is found and various other items of interest. Otherwise, how would I know how much to offer for a 4" Clovis, or how much a 4" Bell is worth? Uninformed people don't stay in this line of work or in this hobby very long. They end up with a pile of fakes and no money. Nothing will excite you like paying 5,000.00 for a point and then finding out it's a reproduction. I'm not much interested in seeds and bones but I do appreciate your hard work. Just wish you'd show more of it instead of hiding it away somewhere. thanks. Don
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I could probably respond to Don but my gut hurts and i dont feel like going around and around with a guy who knows what he is doing is illegal but doesnt care because he can make good money doing it. While he was more willing to talk then any other looter i have ever run into-he is still a douche.
Here's a little tip o the hat to you Don. I will be sending THC your way pal.
Happy monday.
Bird
04 April 2008
Somebody's Got a Birthday...
03 April 2008
Waiver
This broke a couple of days ago but I am just getting around to posting it now.
"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced today its intent to issue two waivers of certain laws to expedite security improvements at the southwest border. Congress gave the Secretary of Homeland Security authority to waive all legal requirements necessary to expeditiously install additional physical barriers and roads at the border to deter illegal activity."
-DHS Exercises Waiver Authority to Expedite Advancements in Border Security
April 1, 2008
Check out the laws they are side stepping here and here.
Thoughts anyone?
"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced today its intent to issue two waivers of certain laws to expedite security improvements at the southwest border. Congress gave the Secretary of Homeland Security authority to waive all legal requirements necessary to expeditiously install additional physical barriers and roads at the border to deter illegal activity."
-DHS Exercises Waiver Authority to Expedite Advancements in Border Security
April 1, 2008
Check out the laws they are side stepping here and here.
Thoughts anyone?
02 April 2008
Music
Good advice from Matson Jones (not the song with same title but actual good advice...)
I'll be fine
I'll be fine
As long as I
Shut this mouth of mine
From the song, Welcome Back Mr. Audiotechnica on MJ's self titled album.
I'll be fine
I'll be fine
As long as I
Shut this mouth of mine
From the song, Welcome Back Mr. Audiotechnica on MJ's self titled album.
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